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Frère Untel[edit]

"Les insolences du Frère Untel (the impertinences of Brother Somebody), which criticized the near absolute dominance of the Roman Catholic Church in Quebec." This could lead to think that the book of Frère Untel criticized the dominance of the Church, which is not the case. This book actually criticized the way people spoke and used French, and, i'm not sure for this part, the way it was taught.

Secularization: non-neutral statement[edit]

Originally, the second paragraph of the Secularization section said, “[e]fforts at modernization were held back by the conservative views of politicians and the Catholic Church's position on education.” I removed that part, because it is an editorial statement. (It is doubtful that the conservative views of politicians had much influence over the level of economic growth, and the Catholic Church’s insistence on parrochial schools did not necessarily mean that the quality of the education was bad. Such statements would have to be proven.) I don’t think anyone doubts that economic growth in Quebec was relatively slow in the postwar period, but we would need a citation, and the causes are almost certainly more complex than the paragraph originally suggested.

To fix the paragraph properly, we would need to find an economic study on Quebec in the postwar period, and then citations from serious historians or economists as regards the causes of this lack of growh. If we find a scholarly work that reasonably argues that either the policies of the Union National government or the educational practices of the Church contributed to this lack of growth, we can cite it here, but my intuition is that the causes are actually broader than that.

AthanasiusOfAlex (talk) 15:19, 28 February 2013 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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The section on secularization says

By the early 1960s, there were more than 1,500 school boards, each responsible for its own programs, textbooks and the recognition of diplomas according to its own criteria.

Surely that should be "granting of diplomas". To recognize a diploma is to accept it as valid, e.g., for higher education or employment. Thnidu (talk) 01:02, 4 August 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This piece from catholic propaganda says: "Moreover, certain facets of the welfare state, as they developed in Quebec in the 1960s, became nationalized by virtue of Quebec's acceptance and promotion. This would include rural electrification and healthcare initiatives undertaken by Tommy Douglas in Saskatchewan twenty years earlier". Twenty years earlier?. Quebec influenced events in past age, they invented time travels?. Who wrote this garbage, a lazy irish-american catholic teenager?. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:48, 7 November 2016 (UTC)Reply[reply]